Friday, April 08, 2022

 college meeting waldorfska šola maribor 7 april 2022


General Intro:

    the question about marks/grades is easily asked; the answer is rather more difficult!

    grading is the world's oldest bad habit ...

    of course as a Waldorf School we should avoid grades as much as possible.

    Our motto: Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar's give to God the things that are God's.

    my talk is without knowing where the discussion is in SLO, MB or in this college

    

The children:

Let me begin with the children: Natural learners, curious, inherently creative

    for them the Teacher-Pupil relationship is very important: it is one of trust, respect and friendliness

    we do not want to risk poisoning it with grading (whether fractiona, percentges, words, lo numbers)

    remember red mrkings mistakes I can bysensitive children be understood as ! (= "how stupid!")


The teacher:

    is not only there to pass on information

    has a basically creative profession

    provokes, engages 

    allows children to be creative (if they want)

    encourages chldren to take responsibility (for their own learning process)

    doesn't ony teach, also gives support when and where necessary

    example how doing MCQs /gap tests can be taught by getting students to make them up themselves!

    Yang-YING (the teacher begins with reciting loudly, talking a lot and gradually talks less/more softly!

       (And the children will recite more loudly and say more allowing children to find their own voices!)

    ensures children keep their natural born enthusiasm, creativity and not successively lose them!


Positives and Negatives of Marks:

    they presuppose a class norm where we compare students

    students mostly want to know where they stand/howgood they are/ to show what they can do / a mark 

    of recognition from the teacher / a reward / to be noticed by the teacher/ to feel taken seriously

    grading is an instument that most teachers find simple to use

    most teachers' marks are on the whole reliable

    they could be used prognostically (but often aren't)

    they never tell the whole story

    they are a blunt sort of feedback and so ack accuracy

    most students know they coul have got a better grade if they had ...

    grades JUDGE performance but son't say much about a student's real or other abilities

    they do not take into account a student's social background, home conditions, fears, social competences

    generally have discriminating effect

    tempt minimalist students to work stategically ("I can afford a bad grade if I can compensate ...")

    tend to undermine edcational goals (students judge subject for easy good marks)


Self-Assessment and Peer-Assessment:

    - Students are asked when they learn well (if teacher corrects homework/if teachers is consistent/if I can 

    work on my own/with a partner/with music/when teacher explains/when I can help classmates etc.)

    - Or students can put crosses to what pplie to them (I often can't concentrate/I like tables and lists/I like 

    being corrected etc.)

    - Students are asked to suggest criteria for judging oral presentations, for example (once a class came up 

    with 49 criteria! Had to agree on 4 or 5, judging was in groups. End grade was average of all groups).

    - Grades can be formal and informal; relative importance can be discussed with students.


Different methods of assessment:

    - Portfolio Method (see Rupert Vierlinger, Salzburg)

    - Dialogue Method (peers judge essay: what was new to me? what moved me? a word of advice! (See

           'Dialogisches Lernen', Urs Ruf, Zürich).

    - Dialogue Learning: Students to become Masters (not Slaves) of tasks, execises!


What the older children cannot stand hearing:

    "als ich so alt wie ihr war"/"when I was your age" ...

    "ihr lernt das nicht für mich"/ "you're not learning this for my sake" ...

    "du hättest auch in der Pause auf die Toilette gehen können"/"you could have used the loo in the break"

    "das darf ich doch von einem Achtklässler erwarten"/"surely I can expect a class-eight student to"

    "in the test everything we've done will be asked"

    etc.!


Education:

    is about children learning to observe, to discover, to think clearly, to weigh up before judging, to find 

    their footing, their roles in their lives ...

    Grades can be part of keeping track of progress in competences as well as knowledge ...

    

 Communication, Cooperation are College Responsibility:

    Criteria, achievement goals, assessment procedures (especially how grades are arrived at) should always be clearly and repeatedly communicated to both parents (as 'critical friends' of the school) and students.         

    This means all teachers (try to) agree as much as at all possible on where the school should go strategically for its educational and social goals here and now (Maribor in 2022!), and work out/ work on a general framework of minimal goals, subject teachers agreeing on details for their respective subjects.

    But: Grades should never become a school's dominant culture!!

    


parents meeting waldorfska šola maribor 5.4.2022

Three topics:

Why do we do foreign languages at all? Why do we do two of them? How do we decide which languages?

Story of the 17 camels. In English as well as in German. See how close these two languages are.

Illustrates that the logic, the thinking is common to all languages. Illustrates that one language can reinforce the other as well as the students' first language!

The differences (as well as similarities!) between individual languages depend on geography, history, culture etc.

Reason for foreign language teaching from class 1 in Waldorf Schools (revolutionary at the time): After war in 1919 the need for more openness to other cultures, mindsets and mutual understanding amongst nations. At bottom all peoples are one big family!

Language families. Participants help remember which languages are Romance, Germanic, Slavic. In between we also have unique languages such as Basque, Albanian; Finnish/Estonian, Hungarian; Latvian/Lithuanian are between Germanic and Slavic (sirdeis, srtse, herz, cordis are not all that far apart, which is why we include these European languages under the idea of 'Indo-European').  Greek was not mentioned.

In a way, English could count as a Romance language owing to Latin and French influence!

Why two languages? Two are in a sort of opposition, in a 'straight line' so to speak, could enhance nationalistic feeling about own language; three languages, as in a triangle which opens 'a space'. 

Which languages ? As far apart as possible (Slovenes English and Chinese for example)! The stranger the language the better for the deeper goal of developing the mind.

Examples of different words stemming rom diferent views/approaches for the same concept: God/Bog/Dieu/Allah; bird/ptitsa/oiseau/madár/lintu/paikstis/pajaro.

We feel how wonderfully exhilarating even briefly looking at these different languages!

English as universal second language has a tragic side. English as a language is becoming poorer (cf. loss of plant, bird, insects species in nature). English children find Shakespeare (which is alteady modern English) more and more difficult to understand/ some see it as a 'cool dialect'!

Story "Barking Dogs Don't Bite" (about a 'Slovenian' visiting English friend in London).

Proverbs like "Barking dogs don't bite."

Younger chilren learn languages quickly. The 'ear for languages' starts becoming less sharp from age 9.

Finish up with a word on the troubles in Ukraine and a poem:

Do not stand at my grave and weep. (See Ecosia.org).